Symposium

出版者:Hackett

作者:Plato

页数:107

译者:Alexander Nehamas

出版时间:1989

价格:GBP 24.95

装帧:Hardcover

isbn号码:9780872200777

图书标签:哲学Plato古希腊英文原版柏拉图外国文学Philosophy男性

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Review

An all-male dinner party in Athens in 416 BC, with plentiful wine and attentive serving-girls, seems an unlikely setting for one of the world's greatest treatises on the nature of love. Yet in the Symposium Plato presents a series of witty, erudite and immensely readable speeches on love, in a setting which would be very familiar to the Athenians of the day. Students of classical Greek will delight in Robin Waterfield's fluent yet comfortable translation. His emphasis on accessibility rather than over-literalism has produced a translation sparkling with wit and ideas, which classicists and non-classicists alike will enjoy reading. Waterfield's fascinating introduction to the text provides valuable background to the sexual mores of the time and the social culture of classical Greece. He also examines each speech in detail, elucidating some of the more oblique points of the text to enable the reader to tackle it with confidence. The Greek playwright Agathon has walked off with the laurels at a recent competition, and is celebrating his victory with a select dinner party, or symposium. As he and his guests take their places, they decide to hold back on the amount of wine they consume and talk about love. The guests at the symposium are a mixed bunch of characters, who deliver their speeches in various styles and with different reactions from their appreciative listeners. Agathon's fellow playwright, the comic master Aristophanes, is there, as is Erxymachus, a doctor, and of course Socrates himself, brilliant philosopher and Plato's mentor. The conversation ranges from a declaration of the importance of homoerotic love to Socrates's account of his discussions with the prophetess Diotima, who claimed that we can only achieve true goodness through love. Into this scene of convivial discussion bursts Alcibiades, ex-lover of Socrates, military genius and famous bon viveur with a scandalous reputation. Thrusting himself between Socrates and his latest lover, Agathon, Alcibiades insists on joining in with the discussion but soon digresses and talks about his own love for Socrates. Although some critics have found the gate-crashing Alcibiades's speech sits awkwardly on such profound metaphysical discussion, it reminds the reader of the physical reality of love, while making several pointed references back to earlier speeches. As Waterfield says at the beginning of his introduction, the Symposium should be read at a sitting and re-visited for further enjoyment and insight. Layer after layer of meaning becomes revealed, and this slender dialogue proves to be a box of ever-increasing delights. (Kirkus UK)

读后感

[一篇学习了《会饮》一学期后的期末小论文，主题是爱和占有欲。爱和占有欲实在是两个难以琢磨的东西，所以我也只是在规定字数内写了一下我的个人想法。可能对于爱、对于爱欲，就像《会饮》中依次出现的古希腊哲学家们迥异的看法一样吧，在每个人那里都会得到不同解答。] 爱和...  

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用户评价

just so so

性别和爱的等级划分。灵魂伴侣。

作为受过一定教育的现代学生可以很轻易地说出“哲学就是爱智慧”，但symposium 所在讲述的是哲学和eros/desire/beauty联系起来的那个过程。上课时不断想起互联网meme：You think you know me, think again.

女性地位尚未看中

非常不用心的譯本，有些地方太過鬆散，其他地方甚至譯錯。